Puck 161

November 12th, 2012, 7:35 pm

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ElectricGecko, November 12th, 2012, 7:43 pm

If I ever get a rock band (a dream which grows more sad and unlikely as I advance even further into my thirties), I shall name my band Satan’s Sea Monkeys.

By the way, this plot development was fairly heavily foreshadowed in strip 129, but that was a while ago, so maybe the surprise will be genuine for some people.


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godmoderncommander, November 12th, 2012, 8:36 pm

Satan for mayor? The end is coming sooner then expected.

Riv (Guest), November 12th, 2012, 9:40 pm

And now I know where my mayor came from.

Nobi Wan Kenobi (Guest), November 12th, 2012, 11:20 pm

Insert standard joke about politicians here.

MrTTAO, November 13th, 2012, 5:01 am

The satan? I thought she was just a random succubus...

Also, satan would be a step up from the average politician

Lilyblack, November 13th, 2012, 1:48 pm

At least he's upfront about it

D.Durand (Guest), November 13th, 2012, 3:11 pm

Peoples often forgot (or never knew) that bigger the city is, less the mayor has work to do, because the problems caused by the population growth slower than the city administration.

In fact, at least in France, after a few dozen of hundred inhabitants, the mayor basically don't have to do anything (if he want to, of course).
For what i know, most cities in the world are in this case.

ElectricGecko, November 13th, 2012, 5:07 pm

@godmoderncommander: Oh come on. Most cities already have one of Satan's minions running the joint. This isn't a major development!

@Riv: Everyone's mayor is in league with Old Scratch. It's just part of the human condition.

@Nobi Wan Kenobi: I think I already did.

@MrTTAO: Yes, Phoebe is not a succubus. She is actually Lucifer's daughter - though she's kind of a disappointment in the evil department. I would also say that Satan would be a model democratic representative in comparison to his elected peers.

@Lilyblack: When you have horns on your head, there's no such thing as false advertising.

@D.Durand: I think Satan is counting on this. He doesn't want any real work. He just wants the ability to meddle with the workings of the city and do stupid, irresponsible things. Just like real mayors!

MrTTAO, November 13th, 2012, 11:42 pm

How can she be a disappointment in the evil department?

Sacrificing your time, happiness, well being, health, life, and personal goals and desires for a "greater good" and a code of conduct is a purely altruistic endeavor.

By definition, actually adhering to an "evil" code of conduct is an act of good. And the whole code of conduct of evil itself explicitly prohibits that.

Frappecinno, November 14th, 2012, 3:44 pm

"Prominent community leader tosses hat into the ring!" Best sentence about Satan i could ever imagine!~

ElectricGecko, November 14th, 2012, 8:14 pm

@MrTTAO: Oh man. We're going to get into a discussion on the inherent nature of evil, aren't we? (Sigh.) Okay. If we are to (momentarily) subscribe to the Christian concept that good is an absolute, and that evil is (by definition) an absence of or distance from the goodness of God, Satan stands as the furthest from that which is good. Phoebe is, in her moral values and choices, closer to the goodness of God, and thus a disappointment in the evil department. If, however, you believe that good and evil are merely relative, and that goodness is defined solely by the society or individual who crafts the governing moral code in question, then I totally get your point. But if you believed that goodness was all relative, you probably wouldn't believe in Satan in first place, and in that case you'd view this entire comic as pure silliness. Which it is. ;)

@Frappecinno: I'm impressed you could read that! There's actually a whole article underneath that I wrote, full of similar jokes. I'm bummed that it's not visible in the final copy. The BEST line, though is the caption under Satan's picture which reads "Satan must have all the answers because he hails from Toronto."

MrTTAO, November 15th, 2012, 9:15 pm

Does God not command "honor (and obey) thy parents"?
Her being god like in demeanor is not doing a good job of that and thus evil it is one of the 10 commandments, the very foundation of good and evil in judeo-christian morality)

I do not hold morality to be (completely) relative, my argument was purely from the point of internal contradiction. And last I checked christian view was not "act like god" but "act like Christianity teaches you".

If one wants to argue that goodness is similarity to god and evil is similarity to satan in an absolutist chrisitian view then you still have a plethora of contradictions to dredge up. :)

Regardless, calling goodness "god like in behavior" doesn't in any way invalidate the argument, it is still altruistic (God like) to self sacrifice for a code of conduct labeled evil (satan like). And that no disobedient rebel (Satan like) would blindingly self sacrifice (god like) to follow such a code.

I think the only way to possibly resolve such an inherent contradiction is to ask why... is she acting good to rebel against her father (satan like), or is she acting good because wants to obey God. Of course, that opens whole tubs of worms not to mention it assumes its just the one reason.

ElectricGecko, November 16th, 2012, 3:52 pm

@MrTTAO: I think my brain hurts. But as for Phoebe's motivation, I think I'm going to say that her less evil nature is more due to her personality rather than a desire to rebel against her father. Phoebe just ... is. As she is. I think.

MrTTAO, November 16th, 2012, 5:05 pm

Sorry about the headache, I thought it was a just a fun and light hearted debate :)

And great to know about phoebe. I like her even more now.

ElectricGecko, November 19th, 2012, 12:13 pm

@MrTTAO: No worries, man! I think, though, that you're a more consummate debater than me. So I yield the prize willingly!

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